After my last attempt being somewhat less than desirable, I decided to give Gutsy Gibbon another chance. This time, rather than installing from the downloadable live CD, I decided to try the update via Update Manager (from Feisty Fawn).

One other difference – and I’m guessing it’s a key difference – this time I unplugged the VGA cable to my external monitor before starting the update process. I did not reconnect my external monitor until after Gutsy Gibbon was fully booted and running.

I followed Mike O’Conner’s advice which he left in a comment here earlier. For convenience, here’s the link to Intel’s instruction – which Mike had reported on.

So:

While still on the laptop screen (and the external still unconnected) I typed:

xrandr -q

and got:

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 800, maximum 1280 x 800
default connected 1280×800+0+0 0mm x 0mm
1280×800 60.0*
1280×768 60.0
1024×768 60.0
848×480 60.0
800×600 60.0
720×576 60.0
etc…

Notice – no information about any other moniter. xrandr thinks the only monitor is called “default”.

I then reconnected the second monitor and restarted X (ctrl+alt+backspace).

After the reboot, I immediately saw my second desktop – all correctly positioned with the correct resolution. But typing xrandr -q at the prompt on the laptop screen still gave me exactly the same information.

I then typed xrandr -q at a prompt on the external monitor’s instance of X and got a different set of data – this time, with no information about the first monitor’s configurations. The bad thing – xrandr is reporting that the external monitor is also known as “default”. This will keep me from following the intell instructions – since it seems that xrandr needs to distinguish the two (common sense) but the X Window’s way seems to be to have completly independent instances running simultaneously.

The only kink in that logic that I can see is that, even though X Windows doesn’t allow me to drag windows or applications from one monitor to the next – I can drag icons from one to the other. …interesting. that has to be a clue – - but I’m not sure to what.

the up side:

The up side is that I really don’t care right now. I’ve finally gotten to upgrade to Gutsy and my monitors are working.

dream config:

It’s silly that I should have to even suggest this to the Ubuntu team – but I want to be able to drag running application from one monitor to the other.

mouthing off:

This notion of having X Windows running multiple instances doesn’t seem to support that – and I’m wondering if that means that the errors and troubles that so many Ubuntu users have been having with setting up a dual head configuration could be due to a bad design that simply needs to be scrapped and redesigned.

thanks for all who’ve commented and offered suggestions, links, and assistance!

11 Responses to “Ubuntu: Gutsy Gibbon Dual Head Monitors Working!”


  1. [...] Ubuntu (xorg.conf driver; ATI card) [update] on 12.15p2007 I updated to Gutsy Gibbon and have dual monitors working! [...]


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  3. Erik Says:

    “It’s silly that I should have to even suggest this to the Ubuntu team – but I want to be able to drag running application from one monitor to the other.”

    You can’t? Dual monitors works fine for me in Gutsy Gibbon and I never had any troubles dragging applications between monitors. I love that I don’t have to de-maximize windows to move them to the other monitor like you have to in Windows :)

  4. hobbylobby Says:

    @Erik

    I’d never even heard someone suggest that it was possible.

    Please instruct me in the ways of dragging
    :)


  5. “Please instruct me in the ways of dragging”

    LOL

    Ok I had an ATI video card in there and it didn’t automatically set up the dual heads (as in, everything else worked on install of Gutsy, but not that) … I just assumed that it was still unsupported and went about my business, forgetting it :)

    Now…..
    Due to stability problems where the video card was a prime suspect, I swapped it out for my nVidia, and when I switched over to the proprietary driver, suddenly my dual head configuration sprung to life. I was astounded :)

    It’s exciting to know that it can be done with ATI too, then!! :D
    Is it worth me having a crack at doing it with the newer and more powerful ATI card, I wonder?…….

  6. alex Says:

    if u are running a nvidia card u need to set the monitor up in twinview to be able to drap apps between monitors. The only thing is that the program doesn’t change panel when it changes window

  7. pissed Says:

    I don’t even know where to start this is rediculus. OK Dell M6300 nvidia quadro fx 1600m (something like that), I can get the other monitor working but it seems to stretch the primary screen over to the secondary flat screen, and wacks the resolution out of proportion. I know that this is Linux, which requires a little manual tweeking as I have found (new Ubuntu user) but I think that it’s stupid that the OS offers the ability to add a secondary monitor and it doesn’t work…. Grrrrr. On top of that I have been reading about this inability to drag windows from screen to screen. After all of the restarts, reinstalls, and me thinking I am absolutely crazy, I now can see that It was all just a waste of time because it won’t do what I want anyway.

    In simple language (often forgotten)

    For those of you who want the fix, do some research on editing the sections of xorg.conf . Some have said that you need separate mappings of device, screen, and monitor. others have suggested that you need to add subsections to the primary screen, thus adding secondary monitors from the primary. I really don’t completely understand this but I have learned that by using the Ubuntu interface to edit your monitor setup you are actually editing xorg.conf, so make sure you make backups. It took me a few days just to get the laptop primary display to work.

    The next version of Ubuntu is supposed to have solved this problem, but I think It’s a pipe dream at this point to have everything go perfectly. Developers need to mimic the Windows interface or at least come up with something that works, this is something that should be built into the UI somewhere (system tray maybe??!) Hardware information in general is difficult to access and read in Gutsy. There are certain things users entering the Ubuntu world are going to expect to be there. SO…. We should continue discussing this stuff… And for the developers out there, bump up the ethics a bit please…. If it DON’T work, DON’T publish it. It’s wasting my time.

    -pissed


  8. Follow Up: Solved

    With the help of a lovely forum, I figured out this dual screen issue…. Here’s the deal folks…. As simple as I can make it.
    If you are using the Nvidia Drivers and Ubuntu Gutsy do the following to get two monitors to work on a laptop. Here’s how you do it in plain English. Before you start make sure etc/X11/xorg.conf is clean.

    1. Download the Nvidia Drivers/Envy from the Add/Remove Programs. This requires some research to know which ones you need depending on your card.

    2. Make sure you know both resolutions you are shooting for. If you have windows you can check there very easily. There’s a command out there for the terminal within ubuntu.

    3. Set up your monitors just as you would in windows using ‘Screen and Graphics’, extending

    4. Log out, Login…

    5. Don’t freak out. My system was stuck stretching the primary monitor ac cross to the secondary monitor at a huge resolution.

    Here’s the TRICK

    6. open the terminal and type

    sudo nvidia-settings.

    edit the multiple display to mimic the one in screens and graphics.

    Turn OFF Xinerama.

    Click Save to X Configuration

    Quit

    Restart.

    When you login you will get two screens that you can’t drag windows back and forth to but at least there’s two.

    If you get that far successfully and are running compiz and emerald you’ll notice that your window title bars are missing on the new secondary screen. So solve this go into the compiz’s settings, make sure monitor “1″ is selected on the right, click on the Window Decorations panel where it says command, enter “emerald”.

    Restart and you should see emerald.

    There’s one more glitch I am working through….

    One cube works on the laptop monitor and the cube works on the secondary but when you edit the number of columns for the workspace it only changes the primary monitor.

    Hope this posting helps.

    -cheers

  9. hobbylobby Says:

    @pissed
    “The next version of Ubuntu is supposed to have solved this problem”

    Funny you should say that. Gutsy Gibbon promised to deliver this very feature with the new GUI tool, which, it seems pretty clear, has been (nearly)universally dismissed as junk.

    Keep at it. There is a sweet spot which I’m sure you’ll eventually get.

    Now that you have one monitor working, keep your back ups of the best working file and continue making gradual tweaks.


    If I could just get my windows dragging between monitors I would seriously do a jig!

  10. hobbylobby Says:

    don’t get me started on how I can’t access any of the cool 3-D stuff with Gutsy.

    it was premature anyway. …Priorities folks!

    get dual monitors working seamlessly, THEN start getting fancy pants.

    :)

  11. James Says:

    Can we get this to work with Heron? also the dragging windows/apps accross the monitors?
    Thanks


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